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AGB
Posted 1/4/2025 19:41 (#11041247 - in reply to #11041175)
Subject: RE: Grain storage or drain tile


Mid-Michigan
JDpastor - 1/4/2025 19:07

AGB - 1/3/2025 18:53

Cliff SEIA - 1/3/2025 12:42

Because some areas are flat enough that getting water to run downhill means the mains have to be 12' or more and that's very expensive, especially if it requires a mile or more of main to reach an outlet.

A mile to an outlet is a different story. 12 foot deep on a flat field makes no sense to me at all unless your runs are 5 miles long. I guess i don't understand. Ive been tiling (thank God I'm done) for 40 years but I don't understand this it's too flat to tile stuff.


Cliff's example of a 12' main a mile long makes sense if his field is so flat that the only place for him to find a deep enough place to find a close outlet is by going through a field that is 8 feet higher than his flat ground. His flat ground might still have a bit of natural drainage that flatly runs for 10 miles, but that also is likely not an economic option. These situations are very common in flat areas.

Edit: I read down lower that too flat for an outlet makes sense, but not too flat to tile. I think most of us understood that Cliff meant without a good outlet it makes no sense to tile. Even with a pump, you still need somewhere to pump it to that does not flood the neighbor.

Further Edit: AGB, I have a lot of respect for you. I read your explanation for your response further down and there are few guys that have both the confidence and character to admit that they had no idea about a subject. There is however no shame in just not knowing. Your response again reminds me why I love this site so much. We all get to learn so much that we did not know before. I am often reminded that what works here may not work there and vise versa. Thank you for your contribution to this site and for your comments.

As I said below (I think), that I'm misunderstanding the meaning of flat. Almost everything I have is flat and tiled well but not low. Low meaning it's the height of an outlet or no outlet. Obviously the water has to have someplace to go (and not the neighbors). The outlet (ditch or whatever) has to have fall to its end destination (river, lake etc.). When the term "flat" comes up I'm of the understanding we are talking about the field. What I was missing was everything is flat meaning there is no fall anywhere thus the water can't leave. I understand what everyone has been trying to beat into my head.
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