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| I have had one for 5 years and have tried to love it but hate the thing. As others have posted it is slow and on cold windy days forget it. I tried drilling the orifice out and almost burned the paint off because it was too hot. I will buy a Webber next time. I don't know much about the Phoenix. What gets me about the Holland is people that say they love them because they don't have time to watch over their grill. But, it takes three to four times longer to get things done in the first place! | |
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OT: Holland grill
