None that I've been around. Our open pulled easier than 8 wide enclosed anyhow. You could pull our open with a half ton. Wouldn't want to try that with an enclosed.

Went to the Snowies. Going to be going somewhere again Presidents day weekend and again in March. I like the deep, not so much on the steep. Pow was waist to armpit deep.

Brother wants a new Doo 800. I've got my eye on an M8 sno pro. I'll see how the fat cattle market holds up over the next several weeks as we sell ours but will probably buy one come spring. Should be a few bux cheaper then.