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| I wasn't terribly impressed with the host of the first link when he was interviewed by the host of the second link . He seemed flustered as opposed to confident on his own youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjwrTBlKwQ
As to who Simon Hill is:
https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a18306049/vegan-body-building-sim...
and Alan Flanagan is an English Vegan. His website:
https://www.alineanutrition.com/about/
I am neither Vegan nor Keto. The vegetables I eat most are potatoes and carrots with cauliflower and broccoli occasionally for variety. and even more rarely cucumbers and iceberg lettuce because not many calories. As for fats I don't limit myself to saturated only.
Four years ago I spent six weeks living with a niece and her family. They ate mostly vegan and I probably showed a bit of displeasure, but I went home weighing less than when I arrived.
I guess Vegan works for some and Keto works for others and I fall in between.
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